Pastor Myles Munroe passed away in a tragic accident, involving the death of nine people, including Dr Myles Munroe and his wife Ruth.
Personally, I am not familiar with much of his teachings or ministry. But I have tremendous respect for a man who has dedicated himself to ministering to others. Even if we may disagree on many matters, he did great work with what he understood and believed.
But all too often, the dark reality of Christianity has raised it’s head. Our fruit of reducing the Gospel to a “get out of hell free” card, has spawned a mountain of heresy hunters seeking to spread their gnostic heresy of salvation by doctrine. And they have taken sight on Myles Munroe and his teachings.
Many have concluded, that for no other reason apart from they do not agree with him, or do not understand him, they see the need to declare him a false teacher, and some have gone so far as to say he’s in hell.
See: Some Denounce Myles Munroe as a “False Teacher”
Thanks to these Gnostic Christians, they have once again tarnished the Good News of Jesus Christ with their narrow mindedness.
These heresy hunters, so blinded by the deceitfulness of sin, attack one of our own. In so doing, they show the world that Christianity is not about love and acceptance. But rather it’s a shallow, hypocritical religion.
Imagine how the unbelievers, with no Christian understanding, must think of these attacks? They must think, “If Myles Munroe can’t make it, there is no hope for anyone else!”
Did Myles Munroe deny Christ in his preaching?
So what has all these heretic hunters up in arms over Myles Munroe? They believe that Myles Munroe denies Christ in his preaching, simply because he has been quoted as saying, “Our Good News is not About Calvary.
Our Good News is not even about the Resurrection. These are important aspects of our work of Redemption, but our Good News is about a Kingdom.”
That is a big heresy that everyone is condemning Myles Munroe to hell for. In the mind of the religious, what was said above is synonymous with “Not Preaching Jesus.”
In other teachings, Myles Munroe talks about how we do not share about the blood of Jesus with unbelievers, because they do not understand our Christian culture. Rather we should share about the inheritance we have in the Kingdom.
This also drives our heresy hunters crazy, because they are so myopic in their vision. Unless something explicitly has the name Jesus, they wouldn’t know what anyone is talking about.
Talk about the Kingdom FIRST
The irony of course, is that Myles Munroe NEVER suggested that the Message stopped there. Neither does he suggest that we never talk about Jesus.
He always said, that we talk about the Kingdom FIRST, and THEN talk about how this was achieved in the Finished work of Jesus. But the Heresy Hunters have usually switched off the videos before they can hear that part. And therefore it never gets mentioned.
If you listened to the Sermon above, you will hear at the 25th minute the part where Myles Munroe says that the second part of evangelism is to share the Lord Jesus, after we share about the Good News.
Myles Munroe does not deny Jesus
There is no denial of Jesus Christ in Myles Munroe’s preaching. That only exists in the minds of heresy hunters who don’t listen.
Myles Munroe, in my opinion, is absolutely correct. Contrary to the heresy hunters, he does not deny Jesus. Rather he does exactly what Paul did when talking to the Athenian pagans on Mar’s Hill.
Paul used their superstitions and poets to share the Good news of our Inclusion into the Family of God.
Acts 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
In that entire sermon Acts 17:16-34, Paul never mentions the name of Jesus. Does that mean Paul has denied Christ? Does that mean Paul is a False Teacher?
No, of course not. Paul is wise in using what the culture was familiar with to draw their interest, where some men inquired more about these matters (Acts 17:34). It is in those settings, we can assume Paul shared about Jesus Christ.
This kind of reaction is common among the immature believers who need everything spelt out to them.
Teaching to the babes
They are babes, unskilled in the word of righteousness. Therefore they cannot discern good and evil, without someone spelling it out to them plainly in simple words.
Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat [Maturity] belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
I remember the first time I told someone that Jesus didn’t preach the Born Again message as we preach it. They slammed me for it, and demonized me. But the truth was evident, Jesus never went around teaching that he died and rose again on the third day.
As with them, and with many today who have fallen for the gnostic heresy of salvation by doctrine, they are so afraid of going to hell by getting teachings wrong, they attack anything different.
And unfortunately Myles Munroe’s legacy and family must endure the fruits of that fear from the very ones who claim to be our brothers and sisters.
Very well said, Brother!
Amen! Amen! Amen! IT IS ALL ABOUT JESUS CHRIST AND NOTHING LESS!
Well said – Myles had all time revelation.This mystery that only few are privileged to hear and know – The kingdom of God
Lk 11:2
Praise God people, all i can say i that Myles teachings were absolutely true according to scripture
In one of his sermons, I once heard him stare that” Jesus did not have to die on the cross”. Jesus himself said that this
is the reason for his existence.
In another of his sermons he stated that “there is no need to pray”
Paraphrase “you can shut heaven down if you don’t pray, I don’t pray”.
Paul tell us to pray without ceasing
You’re such a narrow minded pathetic being. Open your mind and see the truth of Munroe’s teaching.
Brother Walter,
you are right.
I here all these critics talk like devils, so much ignorance. From what I have heard the critics, no one has mention “WHAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD ” IS. No one has touch on that topic.
You start off by say “Personally, while I am not familiar with much of his teachings or ministry,”
Don’t you think that it would be a good idea to familiarize yourself with a person’s teachings and believes before you defend them? Anyway to address just this one point that your brought up, the good news of the bible is that Jesus died, was buried and that He was resurrected. Putting the kingdom message before the work of Christ is like putting the cart before the horse. Jesus Christ is The Kingdom. What He came and achieved here on earth is our passage way into the kingdom.
Quoting you again, “In other teachings, Myles Munroe talks about how we do not share about the Blood Of Jesus with unbelievers,” The Blood of Jesus Christ or His death was not only for believers but He died for the sins of the whole world.
John 6:28-29 “Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
The work (not works) of the ministry is to believe in Jesus Christ. And to believe in Jesus Christ is to believe in His death, burial and resurrection. This should be our starting point, with unbelievers and with believers. Fix our eyes on Jesus Christ……..
Not being familiar with much of his teaching, is not the same thing as not being familiar with the evidence used to support the accusations that he doesn’t preach Jesus. What is circulating, with videos like the ones posted as “evidence” of his false teaching, I am very familiar with. Which is why I am commenting on this topic, as it seems to be the only issues used to denounce Myles Munroe that has surfaced.
No one is suggesting we do not discuss the impact of what the Cross has accomplished. Myles Munroe never suggested that, neither did I. But you are confusing evangelism to unbelievers with believers going to do the works of Ministry. An unbelievers is not doing the works of ministry, so the message would be different for them to believe first, before they can go and do the works.
We cannot expect unbelievers to “fix their eyes on Jesus,” when they don’t even believe in him yet. That’s where you’re getting confused. You’re quoting verses out of context for the wrong audience. The issues raised are speaking to unbelievers.
That is what I’m addressing, and it is what Myles Munroe, and the Apostle Paul suggested in their Preaching. They preach the New Covenant/the Kingdom, and then explained what Jesus did to accomplish this Good News, to bring people to faith. It is only AFTER they believed, they can go and do the works as explained in the verse you quoted.
However you want to preach it, either Jesus only, Kingdom Message First then Jesus finished work, doesn’t matter as Jesus is preached in both ways, and neither way make anyone a false teacher.
Brook thanks for your response. If you take the time to listen to Myles Munroe’s other teachings maybe you would understand what I was trying to say. Dr. Myles like other word of faith teachers have elevated mankind to a near God status and have down graded God to a human status. For example he is very strong on a teaching that God cannot do anything on earth unless we give Him permission.
In the video you posted above, Dr. Myles says that Jesus is the door. Well the Jesus Christ of the bible that I know is the door, the house and the furniture in the house. (using that analogy). He is everything.
I don’t refute the teaching of the Kingdom but the Kingdom of God is Jesus Christ. He is The way and He is The life.
Quoting you from your response above, “They preach the New Covenant/the Kingdom, and then explained what Jesus did to accomplish this Good News, to bring people to faith.” First of the Good News is the message of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is Good News because it was an answer to the bad news… The bad news is that we were born into this world in Adam, Spiritually dead to our God. Because Adam sinned, we all sinned and thus we were born without the life of God in us. Jesus Christ came to fulfill, among other things, these two issues; sin and death. He died to take away the sin that Adam brought into this world and He was resurrected to give us, (those who will accept in faith) the life that we lost in Adam. That is the Good News. The New Covenant as explained in Hebrews 8 is the inheritance that we (believers) now possess because of what Jesus Christ did.
The “Kingdom of God” is only a Kingdom because the King (Jesus Christ) is there. If you are in Christ and Christ is in you then the Kingdom of God is in you.
Rogers’s, d purpose for which Christ came was to establish God’s kingdom here on earth..I’m beginning to think u re biased about Myles..the good news is about d kingdom.. Christ came to preach about d kingdom not about himself…his words were “repent now, for the kingdom of God is hand”..d unbelievers
Dont know d kingdom…u can’t just Tell them Jesus is d way d truth and the life..they would ask “way to where
?.”. Tell them about d kingdom and how to b partakers of the kingdom which is through Christ….there’s no way u would talk about out d kingdom without mentioning Christ…that’s d truth..
Bro. Tom thanks for schooling me.
Paul says in; Romans 1:16-17
”I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”
To you what is the gospel that Paul is not ashamed of? What is the gospel that is the power of God for salvation?
If it is anything other than what Paul preached, hear what he says; Galatians 1:8
“But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!”
In another letter he says that God did not send him to baptized but to preach the gospel not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.
Just in case we are wondering what that gospel is, Paul, the apostle to the gentiles, tells us in his letter to the Corinthians.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you unless you believed in vain.
For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,
So my brother, are you saying that I should now exchange the gospel that Paul preached for one that Dr. Myles preached?
I don’t deny the fact that Jesus came to establish His kingdom here on earth, just don’t separate His kingdom from Him. I could go further and ask you to tell me how that Kingdom is established here on earth. (if you don’t mind, please explain to me how the Kingdom of God is established here on earth.)
Did you say “way to where”?
Are you insinuating “way to the kingdom”?
It’s way to God, pointing to our reconciliation with God.
“No one comes to the father except through me”
the purpose of accepting Christ is not about the physical rewards – Paradise, the core rewards is about the redemption.
You’re to deny yourself and embrace Christ, If the physical rewards of the kingdom is the bait to join Christianity, and not the fact that you’re reconciled with God, that’s probably self deception which occur in all other religions too, and not self denial.
I don’t know much about the man in question, but saying give people the bait before the core message is inappropriate.
The Gospel is the story of redemption.
By one man we fall, and by him we are saved.
Don’t get it wrong.
I would recommend that those who criticize Myles Munroe should listen to his sermon on “rediscovering the Kingdom”.
Myles Munroe was a gift to this world. Most of these popular teachers of the Word didn’t understand him. Dr. Myles was blessed with a sound knowledge of the scriptures and was way ahead of his peers. If his critics are saying that he denied preaching about the death and resurrection of Christ, I’m here to say that his critics got it all wrong.
To begin with, Jesus Christ sent his disciples to preach, teach and heal the sick while He was still alive. My question is; did the disciples preach the death and resurrection at that period? Absolutely “NO”.
What most believers don’t understand is that the gospel is of two folds. The first being “the gospel of Jesus Christ” and the second is; “the gospel that Jesus Christ preached”. These two are inseparable and that’s exactly what Myles Munroe taught with great passion.
If anyone wants to preach the gospel that Jesus preached i.e (the Kingdom message) they can not be talking of death and resurrection. The death and resurrection message was activated consequent upon the glorification of Christ in the book of John 17vs1-5.
Apostle Paul understood this assignment perfectly as can be verified in the Book of Acts 28 vs 31. Paul preached the kingdom and also taught about things concerning Christ. This means that he preached the gospel that Jesus Christ preached and also preached the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Dr. Myles encouraged believers to study the Word always in order to forestall arguments. Unfortunately, most of our preachers do not understand.
Roger, no one is denouncing Myles Munroe for his other teachings. The Heresy hunters are claiming he doesn’t preach Jesus. That is the focus of my message, and I see no need to rabbit trail down every other teaching. Jesus died for our bad theology, and frankly, with 41,000 denominations, we should have a little humility in the areas from which we disagree.
I might remind you that the union of God and Man, is not a “Word of Faith” teaching, it is well established in the bible in the Incarnation of Jesus Christ, and throughout Church History. As one of our early Church fathers, Athanasius once said, in his book, On the Incarnation, “God became man that man might become God.”
Does that mean that we literally become God? No, it means that we are in Union with God and there is no separation. More Specifically, we are Like Jesus Christ, which is God in Union with our Humanity. The Apostle John said it this way, “…As He [Jesus Christ] Is, So are we in this world (1 John 4:17c).
The early church understood Jesus Christ is the Union between God and Humanity. That there will forever be a Human in the Godhead, and that God has chosen not to be God apart from Humanity. While people think these concepts may be blasphemous, they are actually very orthodox and core to the early Trinitarian theology.
While I may disagree with your Gnostic and Dualistic thinking of the world, the Kingdom and the Good News, that doesn’t mean I’m going to label you a false teacher. I simply disagree with your modern interpretation. And as much as we can spend the next few years comparing interpretations, that in no way will justify the unmerited attacks on Myles Munroe.
Gnostic and Dualistic thinking???
Why the name calling? I thought we were exchanging our thoughts as brothers in Christ?
I have to agree with brook and tom. When you look at the actual applications of what Jesus preached, and when you look at the writings of Paul, they taught this heavenly realm available to men, and when the ears and hearts where open to know more about this realm, they informed them about the Way which is Jesus. Jesus went from city to city proclaiming the Kingdom, Paul went from city to city preaching the Kingdom of God… and The Lord Jesus. I’m familiar with Dr. Munroe’s teaching. And he teaches the redemption and restoration purpose of Jesus and his ministry. He teaches that it’s more than just heaven when we die, but once redeemed/reborn, having a heavenly assigned purpose on earth. (The purpose that Adam lost – Subduing the land for God/God’s Image and Likeness – and the Redemptive plan – soul winning)
We teach Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose, but never teach why. We tell them it’s to go to heaven when we die, but never about what we are to do now on earth. We tell people it’s about the Great commission, but Jesus was specific in saying “what things I’ve taught you, that you teach”
Jesus taught the kingdom of God, and demonstrated it’s availability through his works. Now to your point of saying we need to teach unbelievers what Jesus did is true, and in being said Myles is say present the Kingdom, like Jesus and Paul did, then present the way to get in. I don’t see anything wrong with that simply because at the end of the day, even with that method Christ is still shown to be Lord, King, and the only way by which anyone can experience the kingdom.
Myles Monroe’s teachings are in sync. I have been opportune to listen to most of his messages and truly, the Holy Spirit granted him deep and broader insight.
Indeed, the Good News is the Restoration of the Kingdom of God here on earth which we are mandated to seek first – Mat 6:33; and this we do by believing the Finished Work of Jesus Christ at Calvary. Unequivocally, we are to seek His Kingdom as a matter of priority and this is the point of Monroe’s message. Shalom!
Equally, our Lord Jesus Christ says that He is the Way, the Truth…to the restored Kingdom as second Adam given that the First Adam lost it. It’s well with us!
I have to agree with you. I find some his teachings very unbiblical. I have listened to many as a result of a friend coming under his teaching. The effects on my friends life were very bad. Thank you for being true to the word of God as it directs us to expose false teachers. I would supply a long list of unscriptural beliefs but anyone truly interested would have no problem finding them.
First of all let us be clear about what is being said..God will never force anyone to follow Him therefore He cannot do anything in the earth through that person unless there is agreement. Can two walk together, except they be agreed? Amos 3:3
Secondly Jesus preached the Gospel and commanded us to preach the Gospel also. It’s interesting that Jesus never preached His death, burial and resurrection. The true gospel, good news or good information, is about a new government, rulership authority in the earth, which is the Kingdom of God, and the principles on which it functions.
Type 100 verses
Jesus speaks about His death and resurrection
There are over 100 verses Jesus refers to his death and resurrection
He taught his disciples explained this is why He came
He mentions
Suffering
Death
3 days later
Rising
Mk 9:30-32
My 17:22-23
Mt 16:23-24
Luke 9:21-22
Mk 8:31-32
Luke 9:43-45
Thank you, brother for your response, I cannot stand all of these Pharisaical men (mainly men, not women). They are the same ones who would’ve gone on the Crusades to kill the Moslems who wouldn’t convert to Christ. Or, worse, kill Jews who wouldn’t convert to their brand of Christianity.
The same “white founding fathers” who used the Bible to claim that black men were 3/5ths of a man. Or, used the Bible to keep the country segregated. Where was the Southern Baptist Convention during the Civil Rights movement? Holed up in their lily-white churches praying for God to condemn the uprising?
I reject the denouncers of Dr. Myles Munroe!! wholeheartedly!! and without reservation.
Jesus is the way..The truth and the life…The way to the kingdom is Jesus..u can’t understand the kingdom and it’s purpose unless u understand Jesus. .For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son..that whosoever believes in him shall not perish..but have everlasting life..everlasting life is in the Kingdom..so u can’t make the kingdom. .without first believing that Jesus christ came,died and washed away our sins With his blood..no one can approach the. Kingdom or God except through Jesus..that’s why we pray in his name..and he came in human form to suffer not for the believers..but for the unbelievers. .I don’t no if the aligations are true..but I’m just commenting. .I believe as Christians the news on our lips must be Jesus. .That’s why we are Christians. Meaning christ like. .u must not dangle anything to anyone to make them accept Jesus. .
I think Dr. Munroe’s point was that the kingdom is actually very easy to understand and also very highly desired, and that everyone is trying to find it but some don’t know the way. Jesus is the way to the Kingdom. I’ve heard Dr. Munroe repeatedly say that.
Jesus constantly talked about the kingdom, and he did himself say in Luke 4 that he came to preach the kingdom. He said that He came so that men (mankind) might have life and have it more abundantly. He also said that He had to go away so that He could prepare a place for us, and that He would come again and receive us. Even his closest confidants (the disciples) couldn’t understand; one of them (Thomas) even told Jesus in John 14 explicitly that he didn’t understand where Jesus was going and asked how would they know the way since He would be gone. Jesus’s answer: I am the way, the truth, and the life. We do need to ask the way to what? The truth of what? What life? The messages I’ve heard from Dr. Munroe help answer these questions: the way to truth, the truth of God and our place in Him, the life He purposes for us now and for evermore.
What this article and comment thread has exposed — that believers are a mess of confusion, questions, and in-fighting — is not much different than what happened when Jesus was walking the earth and in the gospel-spreading years since; it hasn’t really changed. The followers were confused then. So many of us are confused now.
Jesus was indisputably the Word of God, and that Word is illuminating and love personified. Still, some people – even believers – aren’t enlightened and are not handling each other in love.
If you’ve ever known a preacher, you will know that preachers are human. They learn, make mistakes, make verbal faux pas, and have to keep going. They have so much weight to carry. I know because I have a parent who is a preacher. Watching the time and labor and love that goes into studying the scriptures and preparing to come before a very often critical audience week after week has made me very compassionate and admiring of the work and discipline that entails.
Dr. Munroe wasn’t perfect. His messages weren’t perfect. I’ve seen some of his messages in which he has actually apologized for preaching something that he later found was in error. That takes a lot of humility. If you view his messages in soundbites and attack his approach without considering both the wisdom there and the human fallibility, you might miss the heart of what he was saying. He did share tremendous revelation on the kingdom, and I thank him for that. For me, his messages helped open up a better understanding of Jesus, and I got free from a lot of burdens through his ministry.
Ultimately, Dr. Myles Munroe unabashedly pointed all glory to God and gave utmost reverence to Jesus Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit. Whether you believe that we should talk about Jesus first and the kingdom second — or vice versa — does not diminish God. If you believe that we have absolutely no power (dominion) and any such statement is heresy or evidence of false teaching, that still does not impact salvation. The only difference it makes is in how much victory you can experience while you’re here on earth. Dr. Munroe brought me closer to Christ and helped me realize the victory I can walk in now. I count his ministry a blessing!
Hi Paulette,
I have taken the time to read through most of the comments on this article that started in November 2014 even up till now. It is a sad thing that the body of Christ is so divided and in so much confusion that it took 9years for someone to give a balanced view on this.
I am glad that you have chosen to lend your voice to this and help bring clarity to a baseless argument that only serves to sow discord among the elect.
I wholeheartedly agree with you – whether Christ is preached first then the Kingdom of God or vice versa, is it not to the glory of the father? It was strange to read all the arguments and I am glad the Holy Spirit gave you the understanding to distill it so clearly for others.
Sometimes, many people forget our human components and it is sad. I have also been a victim of this besetting sin of pride that judges the lives of preachers without exposing myself to the same amount of scrutiny. People need to remember that we all are humans and our humanity will eventually show, however we try to hide it.
I hope your parents are still actively in service and I pray their strength is renewed.
Grace to you and your family
That is the good news we have. That Jesus died on the cross and after three days he rose from death. Without this, there would never be anything Christianity. That is the difference with other religion.
Dear Rogers,
I must say I am amazed by your look of things. Dishop Myles Preached Christ by preaching about the Kingdom that many have lost sight of and rather focused on other things. What makes you think he was a false teacher? He has never said people are made righteous or are saved by believing in Myles Munroe. He said when you come to the Kingdom (offcourse by believing in the finished works of Christ) you have not come to a man but to a Kingdom. Therefore have a kingdom oriented mindset.
Many receive Christ and never really become ambassadors of the Kingdom because they are too afraid to faulter or because they are afraid of critics. If the Kingdom must be established here on earth(offcourse through ambassadors of the kingdom), But Bis Myles stood as a true representative(ambassador) of the Kingdom. We must have a kingdom mindset and be thus oriented. I believe that’s the message Bis Myles Munroe preached and that is not heresy. God is not the ONE to come here on earth and do this for the church. The church must rise up to the task. Remember Mat 28:18-20 ‘Go make ambassadors of the Kingdom in every nation…. teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you(teaching them to be true ambassadors) and lo I am with you even to the end.
Atah I will refer you back to scripture. The same ones I have been posting on this post. Paul tells us what the gospel is. The gospel that was revealed to him by Jesus Christ Himself on the road to Damascus. Paul went further to say that if anyone preaches any other gospel let him be eternally condemned.
Ask yourself the question; was the gospel that Myles Munroe preached the same as the one that Paul preached?
Moreso what is your definition of the gospel?
Did you take some time out to watch the video that started all these back and forth? I think we as Christians have the God given rights to judge what we hear. We should be like the Bereans and not just accept all teachings. Judge based on scripture and hold fast to what is true.
Are you inferring that preaching the message of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ will not make ambassadors for the Kingdom?
I also strongly disagree with you, you said, “He said when you come to the Kingdom (offcourse by believing in the finished works of Christ) you have not come to a man but to a Kingdom. Therefore have a kingdom oriented mindset.”
Instead of us teaching people to come to the God/man Jesus Christ, we are teaching people to come to what we can get from Him (Kingdom). True Christianity is the only ‘religion’ that is dependent on an individual. Every other religion teaches on rules and regulation to attain nevana but in Christianity it is all about Jesus Christ plus nothing.
Hi Rogers,
One simple question – do we follow Paul or Christ? i believe we are suppose to follow Christ. Christ himself (for example: Luke 4 and mathew 24) preached about the Kingdom.
You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about Jesus said I must preach the kingdom of God, the word must is a necessity a priority not an option because Jesus said I must because he was under Divine instruction and who gave him that instruction? God the father .,
What did Adam lose at the fall ? He didn’t lose a religion he lost the kingdom. This is why in the new Testament it says it was the fathers good pleasure to give us the kingdom.
Read the book of Mark 1: 14 – 17
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Believe in what gospel ? It says the gospel of the kingdom
What does it say in Mathew 4:23 – he went into Galilee preaching what the gospel of the kingdom after he said “ repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand
It was the first time the word gospel is used in the New Testament and what’s attached to the use of that word gospel .. the word kingdom
It doesn’t divorce Jesus from the message it’s compliments if . Because Jesus is the very nature and personification of this kingdom he came to preach
The problem is with Christians they major on their per doctrines . Jesus said detach yourself from the gospel of Christ in the book of Hebrews
Man did not lose the kingdom with the fall, we lost fellowship with God. And the Father, Himself says that Jesus has come to save us from our sins. This is the first and over arching purpose of God, – to set aside the destruction of sin, and to redeem all of creation, including mankind. The calamity of sins initiated by Satan would be done away with forever, and that God would again have a redeemed people in the likeness of His son. This is the message of the word of God, from the beginning to the end . Yes,,there is a King, and there is a kingdom, but the first priority to the father and the son, is that those that are in darkness will come out and find life in Jesus Christ. Even as Jesus preached the kingdom in Matthew it was not a material kingdom, but it was a spiritual kingdom based on those that have been born from above, and had a heavenly disposition and nature. We can serve in the kingdom, but the kingdom belongs to one person, and that is Jesus Christ. Even when you find Jesus preaching the kingdom, He preaches it right alongside of self denial and repentance. Amazingly, Jesus preaches it on the sermon of the mount without the promise of prestige or earthly riches, and the disciples and many others followed Him. The kingdom of God is not meat and drink but righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.
How do you believe ? Explain in literal terms than vague religious terms, i.e. i understand obey rather tha faith, or trust than believe
Thank you !
People just don’t get because they are religious. Growing up in the Apostolic faith, I used to always hear, You Must Be Born Again. But nobody ever completely explain what the Kingdom of God was in John 3:3-7. The Kingdom of God taught by Dr. Myles showed me that what I was taught wasn’t wrong, but incomplete. The Kingdom doesn’t take the focus off of Jesus, it just allows you to see who Jesus really is. Jesus saying seek first the Kingdom makes more sense when you see Jesus from the Kingdom of God perspective. People just don’t understand Dr. Myles. I pray through his death, people will start taking the Kingdom seriously.
you said it all. SEEK YEE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD was said by Christ Himself
Perfectly sais Franklin I now rest my case so please let this man rest in peace.
Mark 1:15, Jesus said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” You can’t talk about a Kingdom without talking about the King that runs that Kingdom. Jesus tells you what the Gospel was Himself
“NEWS”, brethrens is always a narration of what has already happened. News is not about what will happen. Guys, dont complicate a very simple instruction by Jesus to His disciples, “Go and tell the good news to every creature….them that believe…. be baptized…”
God is and has been a King all along even before the coming of Christ on earth. Jesus, as the Christ came to restore man back to God’s Kingdom, simply put, to bring man back under the dominion of the King! Because of man’s disobedience he became independent of God. So Christ’s mission was simply to bring man back to be dependant on God, to come under and recognise God’s authority. And this is what Jesus was telling the Jews to do when he said, “Seek first the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness..” That is, get under God’s authority by God’s way of justification.”
Jesus is the one who became God’s way of justification for man to get back under God’s authority, or from independent of God to dependant on God, or from an allien to being a citizen of God’s Kingdom.
Many people, cultures and religion somehow unconsciously tend to recognise the existence of a supreme being in form of a ruler who demands submision. Be it in Hindu shrines, or the voodoos of Haiti, or the black magics of Africa or worship services in all forms of different religious temples whether Christians or Muslims. One thing is common, the recognition of one as a ruler and them as subjects asked to submit.
So, the subject of King and Kingdom is not actually “News” to the world. What is news is about this one King who gave His only begotten Son so that ‘Whosoever’ believes in Him shall find FAVOR with this King and His Kingdom. And this is what Jesus instructed his disciples to take to the ends of the earth as “GOOD NEWS.” What He has done on behalf of all people in order for them to be restored to God’s Kingdom.
It is good news in the sense that every creature does not need to do anything but only BELIEVE what the King’s Son, Jesus Christ, has done on your behalf and you will be accepted into this wonderful Kingdom not as a subject but as the son of the King! No wonder Jesus called it Good News.
Ministers of the Gospel, lets keep it simple and it will simply be understood and believed. Personally, i respect Bis. Myles for his amazing contribution to the propagation of the gospel. It is not up to anyone to judge the kind of work he did. Lets leave that for the judgement seat of Christ where every man’s work will be tested in fire by non other than Jesus Himself. This is what Apostle Paul advises the Corinthians.
I rest my case. Blessings
Thank you Pastor Clay. All these Theologian Pastors complicated the gospel by trying to demonstrate their theological knowledge and loosing sight of the gospel. They turned Christians against Christians by creating divisions through their theological debates..I make no apology by describing them as Pharisees and teachers of the time of Christ which Christ himself condemned. Lets not give way for the devil with iur theological debate. John 3:16 is as clear as crystal water and even gentiles understood it. Go and spread the Good News…be bless
Thank you. Blessings!
It is so true; we don’t merely see things as they are, we see them as we are. Anyone who is bent on fault finding would find faults in basically anything. Its amazing that I have not heard anyone judge any famous person as ok. there is always something wrong with them. If you become successful you are just assumed to be evil. What a shame…it stinks of shameless jealousy.
Anyone who condemns Myles is just too intimidated by the impact he has made…believe it or not Myles is very much alive with us. He died empty. No potential was unexploited. All critiques get used to that!
I mean, Jesus also said to Peter that he would do even greater things than that of what was being done at the time. It would be absurd to think that the Word cannot meet someone in any position or walk of life and build you up from there.
I totally agree with the stance you took on this issue mainly because the applications for the Word cover EVERY base of human existence and leads you to a “more glorious destiny” (Ps. 73:24). The difficulty of the Word is it’s simplicity.
Who are the sons of God? Those who have the Spirit of God. The problem with today’s Christianity is it has become a ‘Common Sense Only’ christianity. People are no longer spiritual ( no longer in tune with the Holy Ghost).
This is my argument: don’t just judge someone by what they’ve said and how they’ve said it, ALSO (and most importantly) Judge by the spirit by which they are speaking. It is easier to detect a false spirit than to detect a false teaching. Cuz demons can pretend to be angels of light, giving a slightly twisted truth or half true, or truth at first, then lies.
A lady with evil spirit was following Paul n Other apostles declaring the gospel with them until they had enough of her n casted out her spirit. You see, the only way you would’ve known If Doctor Myles was a false teacher, was through the Holy Ghost.
I’ve heard him many times, looked directly into his eyes through many live streams, I know by the Holy Ghost he belongs to Christ. He may not be perfect, but Discernment tells me he loved Jesus and had a burning desire to serve the citizens of God’s Kingdom . Misunderstood he maybe, but you shouldve known by the Holy Ghost that Dr. Myles belonged to Christ, if you truely belong to Christ yourself.
Many belong to Christ only by their own confession n common sense, but are not in communion with the Holy Ghost. Does Jesus even knows you? If we are living by the Holy Spirit, this topic would not have arise in the first place.
Christianity is dead without fellowship with God’s Holy Spirit.
The man has done the work well, nothing like heresy anywhere but he preached revelation as god gave it to him. He is never in hell nor in heaven because there is re-arrangement going on in the spirit. You are going to see the conclusion of all things soon. The man preached the right message throughout, the kingdom of god. The kingdom of god is what is going to take over soon, god has completed the work in the spirit already. Calvary has completed it’s work and gone longtime ago, we have another set of power working for the new kingdom of god forever. You can check the 12 prophecies to the new world, new kingdom on my face-book and other social networks.
What’s an Executive Prophet? Is that a Major or Minor Prophet and How did you become one? Biblical evidence would help.
Let’s put aside all the man-centered sentiment and listen to what Scripture has proclaimed shall we:
“3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures”
I Corinthians 15:3-4
So Munroe was dead wrong. Not to mention he has also preached that Christ “did not really die”. The man single-handedly nullified he crucifixion and leaves us (believers) in our sin.
I have heard the man speak in person and he teaches a different gospel. He was a false teacher.
His death was tragic, but ministry was profane.
Keith, again, no one is suggesting we do not preach Jesus and him Crucified. Myles Munroe did not teaching that, neither am I suggesting it. That’s not a real objection.
Someone sent me the clip about Myles Munroe preaching that Christ “Did Not Really die.” And that is NOT what He said at all.
Here is the Clip that someone sent me.
http://youtu.be/HJplOFenVWk
I have not seen the rest of this message, but I’ve seen many of his other messages where he clearly talks about Jesus Died. What you are failing to understand is that Myles Munroe is not talking about his belief, he’s talking about how the Bible records the death of Jesus.
I can equally say, that the Bible nowhere records about a Trinity. Does that mean the same thing as “I am denying the trinity?” No of course not. In the same way, Myles Munroe comments about the way the Gospel writers record the death of Jesus, is not the same thing as saying he teaches that “Jesus didn’t really die!”
If you find the rest of that sermon, I’d love to see it in it’s full context.
Where Myles Munroe got it wrong, is that the New Testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew. But again, because I do not have the full sermon, to know what he is referring to before and after this statement, I cannot say. He may in fact have been referencing a Hebrew Copy of the New Testament.
I hope that helps.
Paul clearly states in I Cor. 15:3 what was given to him as of FIRST IMPORTANCE. This is not changed or nuanced in this or any other of Paul’s writings in the New Testament. Furthermore Paul declares that this truth was declared to him by the Holy Spirit. Therefore it is not subject to change or nuancing.
Munroe relegated what the Holy Spirit said was of FIRST IMPORTANCE to no better than second place. Munroe is wrong.
Furthermore, Munroe’s idea of the Kingdom of God is fraudulent. He sees the Kingdom as the place where we get all our stuff. the Kingdom of God is no less than Jesus Christ Himself. He is the one to be sought, He is our highest reward. When Jesus opened the Scriptures to the disciples on the road to Emmaus, he showed them how all the Law and the Prophets pointed to HIM. Munroe distorts that message.
Paul states in this passage that he is delivering to them what he received as of FIRST IMPORTANCE. In no other place among his writings, nor those of the other New Testament writers, is that FIRST IMPORTANCE standing of that truth changed or contradicted.
Furthermore, Paul received this truth from the Holy Spirit Himself, as all of his writing and teaching comes from Him. Therefore the truth is eternal and immutable.
Furthermore, Munroe’s concept of the Kingdom of God is fraudulent. He presents the Kingdom as the realm where believers get all their stuff. Christ is the Kingdom, the Kingdom is Christ. It is in Him and Him alone that we live move and have our being. When Jesus opened the Scriptures to the disciples on the road to Emmaus, He explained how all the Law and the Prophets spoke of Him. He is our reward. We are gifts to Him from the Father. Munroe profanes the Kingdom of God making it the source of temporal blessings and the fulfillment of earthly desires.
“For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.”
I Cor. 2:2
I think Paul knows better than Myles
Please remember the context. According to Paul, he decided to speak nothing AMONG THE CORINTHIANS except Jesus Christ and Him Crucified, because they were Immature Babes in Christ (1 Corinthians 3:1).
Later on in that same Chapter Paul Says this.
¶Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect [Mature]: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
1 Corinthians 2:6 – 1 Corinthians 2:7 (KJV)
So Again, if you are an immature babe in Christ, like the Corinthians, you need to have Jesus spelled out for you plainly, because immature believers lack discernment for real wisdom. If you are mature and wise, Paul spoke deep things about the Mystery and Union of God and Man.
I hope that helps.
Paul went further in another letter to explain what that mystery was.
Colossians 1:25-27
“I have become its servant by the commission God gave me to present to you the word of God in its fullness— 26the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is now disclosed to the Lord’s people. 27To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
Prescisely, and what unbeliever is any more mature in the things of God than even the Corinthians. They must be instructed in the thing of FIRST IMPORTANCE, Jesus Christ’s atoning work on the cross for sinners. Paying their debt of sin by His shed BLOOD on the cross and enduring the just wrath of God in their place.
Munroe distorts the Gospel. False teacher.
This gentleman is spot on . . .
“Wow! That is all I can say about how ridiculous this person’s article is. First of all, somebody needs to pick up a book and read about gnosticism before they go throwing that word around freely. Gnostics were not about sound doctrine; they were about secret knowledge. Secondly, he uses Paul’s message to the Athenians as a base for defending Monroe’s method for presenting the “gospel.” This is idiotic for numerous reasons; 1. We can be quite certain that this is a condensed version of Paul’s message as messages in the Areopagus tended to be very lengthy. 2. Paul’s message is not about how you need to get over in the kingdom so you can get your free stuff; which is in fact the message I got from the Munroe video. Paul took them down a trail that started with a Creator, a common human origin, the sufficiency of God, the neediness of man, the sovereignty of God over human affairs, the darkness of the human heart, the stain of sin that requires a holy God to judge man. See Munroe preached that you need to get into the kingdom cause that is where you get your blessings and good stuff. That does not at all resemble Paul’s message to the Athenians. 3. The most disturbing is the way he started mocking about the blood in that video. I mean wow!!!! That is really precious stuff to say it like “Nobody wants to hear about no bbblooodd.'”
Joshua Hayes
Right…
Firstly, Gnosticism in it’s many variations was about Salvation by Secret Knowledge, in other words, if you don’t believe what I know, you’re not saved, in other words If you don’t believe what I consider Doctrine you are not saved.
That is what the Christian Heresy Hunters are saying, that because someone else does not know what they know, they think that person is a heretic and going to hell. So Christians suggesting that Myles Munroe’s is going to hell, because of doctrine, means they believe in Salvation by what we know, which is the definition of Gnosticism. If you can’t see that, then there is nothing more I can say.
1. So he’s basically calling Paul’s method to the Athenians idiotic, and instead appeals to silence [what is not recorded] to make his point? If that makes sense to you, then I really don’t know what to say. We know very well that it is a condensed version of the sermon, but one cannot build any evidence from what is NOT recorded in the Bible. It’s true that Paul said additional things in that Sermon, but the fact is, those things are not recorded. At best, they are make for speculative ideas, but we cannot model anything on what is not said!
No one alive to day knows exactly what Paul Said, and for that reason no one can use what is not recorded for evidence of anything. That would be like me pointing to the fact that there were things Jesus said but are not recorded, and then use that to say that Jesus preached Islam in those Unrecorded Messages, that were left out of the Bible.
That’s exactly what people do with the missing gap of Jesus’ Life from when he was 12 to 30. Hindu’s claim he was in the far East, other claim he was studying Greek philosophers. The fact is, arguing from silence is fallacious and erroneous. Basically, when something is not recorded, you can say Anything! If you don’t see the obvious errors in this, there isn’t anything I can say to you.
2. The second point is a stray man at best. You cannot say the content of Paul’s Message to the Athenians disproves the Method that Myles Munroe uses for Evangelism. The content and the style are two different things. Saying that Paul’s Message doesn’t have the same language of the Kingdom, doesn’t negate the fact that what we have recorded, is the same style.
That would like comparing the story structure of two books, they both have a beginning, middle and an end, but then saying the structures are different, because one book is about Children and the other book is about Adults. The Contents of the book, have no relations to the structure of the book. But if you think you can discredit the Structure of Myles Munroe’s Sermons, by comparing it to the Content of Paul’s preaching, then I really don’t know what else I can say to you…
3. Paul appealed to their Culture, He used Pagan sources that they could relate to peak their interest, and never mentioned Jesus in that sermon. Myles Munroe does the same thing, except instead of using Pagan sources and culture, he talks about his understanding of the blessings of the new Covenant (which Paul does also about the forgiveness of our sins), to peak interest, before inviting people to know Jesus Christ. If you can’t see that the Method is the same, well I can’t help you.
Lastly the third point, again, has no relevance than his own personal opinions. As the problem with so many Christians today, they do no realize that UNBELIEVERS do no understand Christian Terms, Christians Language and Christian Phrases. Christians value the Blood because we understand what it has done, but to unbelievers, the Blood doesn’t have the same value or reverence. Which is the entire point. Before someone can make the Blood valuable and precious in the eyes of an Unbeliever, you must tell them the Good News about what the Blood accomplished FIRST.
If these arguments make sense to you, and is “spot on,” then it is no wonder you don’t understand Myles Munroe’s teaching or my article. You are free to believe what you want about Myles Munroe, but you’re in position to label him a false teacher or condemn him.
Brook,
This is where I think you got it wrong. You labeled me a gnostic because I quoted Paul’s teachings about the gospel. A teaching that main line Christianity has followed for thousands of years. Yet you talk about this new knowledge (gnosis) that Myles Munroe taught in the twentieth century. Myles Munroe has this new knowledge of converting unbelievers to believers which is by teaching them the kingdom knowledge first then once they understand the knowledge about the kindgom then and only then would you teach them about Jesus Christ.
Who is the gnostic again?
The Apostle to the gentiles, Paul, said that if anyone preaches a gospel other than the one he taught, that person will be eternally condemned.
The Gospel IS THE GOOD NEWS. And the gospel that Paul preached was not a gospel about the kingdom but it was the message of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
The gospel demands a response from each person, individually; Why did Jesus Christ die, why was He resurrected? This is what we need to be teaching unbelievers. Not just to believe in Jesus Christ but to answer the question, why did He die for you? Why was He resurrected? It is the answer to these questions that saves us. That is why Paul says that he is not ashamed of the gospel for it is the power of God for salvation to those who believe.
The gospel, the good news, is that Jesus Christ died to take away the sin that Adam brought into this world and He was resurrected so that those who believe would have the LIFE that mankind lost when Adam sinned. This is the simple, basic message that has been taught for centuries.
Myles Munroe came up with this new revelation knowledge that instead of that we should first teach people about the kingdom. Christianity is about a person and not what you can get.
As sweet sounding as this message is, it teaches people to seek what God can give them instead of seeking Jesus Christ and Him alone.
Someone commented that Myles Munroe preached what God revealed to him. I think this is where “milk drinking Christians” get it wrong. God is not revealing anything new to anyone. God’s complete and final revelation to mankind is Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit of God is here to reveal Christ in us not to give us some new knowledge that no one since The Resurrection had.
“I’m going to say it again! Prayer is man giving God authority, or God license, to interfere in the affairs of man. In fact, God – I’m going to take a deep breath because some of you religious people aren’t going to understand me- Are you ready? – God cannot do anything in the earth without a human’s permission”
Myles Munroe, Praise the Lord, Trinity Broadcasting Network, 23 February 2000
“for his dominion is an everlasting dominion,
and his kingdom endures from generation to generation;
all the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing,
and he does according to his will among the host of heaven
and among the inhabitants of the earth;
and none can stay his hand
or say to him, “What have you done?”
(Daniel 4:34-35 ESV)
Nebuchadnezzar, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit
Keith the comments you made on ‘prayer’ giving reference to Trinity Broadcasting Network, 23 February 2000 and on the ‘nature of God’ giving reference to Trinity Broadcasting Network, 11 December 2000, and which are strongly supported by Roger, brings me and i think it should bring all of to one conclusion which is ‘Bis. Myles taught simple things which are hard for some to understand’. I now understand why Brook uses the term ‘ heresy hunters’ for truely there are.
“You have the same nature as God Himself. You create your own world the same wat God creates His. He speaks and things happen, you speak and they happen.”
Myles Munroe, Praise the Lord, Trinity Broadcasting Network, 11 December 2000
“Is there a God besides me?
There is no Rock; I know not any . . .
I am the LORD, and there is no other,
besides me there is no God;
(Isaiah 44:8; 45:5 ESV)
Yahweh
Thank you Keith.
Again this is not judging the man, Myles Munroe, but it is holding his teachings against scripture.
The teachings are false. Ergo, Munroe was a false teacher.
My goodness Keith before you open your mouth rather than settle for what you know that which has being passed down by others you thought were in the know, then you need to Seek Kingdom of God 1st so that you will know that Myles knows what he is talking about because only ignorance of those who have become unteachable are left behind because of their own stupidity, stop trying to be a wordsmith of the word when you are only on the milk ; we were once like you then we got over ourselves Keith
Keith the comments you made on ‘the nature of God’ giving the reference to Trinity Broadcasting Network, 11 December 2000 and also on ‘prayer’ giving reference to Trinity Broadcasting Network, 23 February 2000 and which are strongly supported by Roger brings me and i think it should for all of us, to one conclusion which is ‘Myles taught simple things which some find very hard to understand’. I now understand why Brook uses the term ‘heresy hunters’ for truely there are heresy hunters.
Keith the comments you made on ‘prayer’ giving reference to Trinity Broadcasting Network, 23 February 2000 and on the ‘nature of God’ giving reference to Trinity Broadcasting Network, 11 December 2000, and which are strongly supported by Roger, brings me and i think it should bring all of to one conclusion which is ‘Bis. Myles taught simple things which are hard for some to understand’. I now understand why Brook uses the term ‘ heresy hunters’ for truely there are.
One drop of deadly poison ruins a whole tank of “clear” drinking water and there is no poison more destructive to the human soul than false doctrine albeit in small doses. On the Day of Pentecost, after God had sent down His powerful Holy Spirit and Peter had preached the first sermon of Christ’s Church in (Acts 2:1-35) verse 37 continues: “When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and asked Peter and the other Apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38 Peter replied, “REPENT and BE BAPTIZED, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS, AND YOU WILL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. THIS PROMISE IS FOR YOU nd FOR ALL…
The false doctrine shortcut that one may simply “allow Jesus into your heart” is arrogant and false and leads only to eternal damnation. Do not be fooled. Unless you hear and accept Gospel of Jesus Christ, the instruction carried forward by Peter and the Apostles and later Paul and seald within the Holy Bible, you CAN NOT see the need to repent and then be baptized the way that 3000 souls did on that first day of Pentecost. In rejecting Peter’s message you thus reject Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior over your life. You therefore have not had your sins washed away by Christ who preached and exemplified humility and obedience to God’s Word, presenting himself before a bewildered John the Baptist in order to be baptized the right way by the right person, in the right Spirit. The Holy Spirit does not therefore live in you for He cannot live where sin has not been washed away.
The far reaches of what all these so-called preachers along with an earth-full of “churches” and religions have proclaimed by their own “wisdom” is all vast, deathly foolish emptiness since the Light of the Word of God exposes that they had never entered into God’s Kingdom in the first place. They ignore the map that leads to God’s Kingdom and are therefore, despite appearances, fumbling in the darkness that is the early stages of the terrible eternal damnation.
Question: If the Kingdom of God is first introduced to an unbeliever as a means of informing this person about what’s available to them in the Kingdom before entering it and if Jesus is secondly introduced to this person as the way of entering the Kingdom and that person receives Jesus as Lord and Savior, is this person considered born again? If yes, than let’s move forward together…
Briggs why dangle a carrot infront of people before presenting Christ to them. Why not just give them the pure and simple message. Christ died because you were a sinner. The law that condemned you was nailed on the crossed with Him. He resurrected so that in Him you might have the LIFE of God that was lost in Adam.
Christian maturity is growing in our knowledge of Jesus Christ, so that we are not tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming.
How can the lost know they are lost without a point of reference to be lost by?
What use is a cure without first learning of the sickness?
What use is a King without seeing his kingdom?
Didn’t Jesus come first declaring the Kingdom, prior to his death?
Didn’t Jesus tell us to seek first the Kingdom and it’s righteousness (which Dr Munroe states as meaning right standing with the King of that Kingdom)?
Did he preach Christ died and resurrected and ascended (often forgot) for the salvation of the world, that they may enter into his Kingdom? (note the bible talks much of entering into the Kingdom – it talks much about the Kingdom of Heaven… in fact, it’s something being discussed a lot at the moment by many.
I think this debate by the Heresy hunters and the Gnostics and even the defenders has been framed wrong, perhaps first look at the whole bible – the Old testament is littered with the imagery of the Kingdom, then compare Dr Munroe’s teachings with the bible, not until you understand the complete teachings of the Scriptures can you hope to compare.
Secondly Church Orthodoxy would not technically have called Myles Munroe a heretic, perhaps a little hetrodox, but on the whole Orthodox.
His teaching was about ‘What is this Kingdom Christ Preached?’ – “Why must I seek it?”
According to Myles, Jesus did not “really die, he expired…”. How does this quote juxtaposes with line seven of your defense treaties. I am no pastor, however I read in the Bible that after He cried it is finished, He, Jesus, hung His head and died”. Whose words am I supposed to believe? Myles or Holy writ. further, if Jesus did not die, then the whole plan of salvation is a myth. By the way, there are many more controversial posits that Myles argue, which calls into question Biblical teachings.
To my mind, this is not good. The Bible and the Bible alone is the only rule of faith for the christian.
Christian was call to be fishers of man. A wish fisherman, know how to use his bate, even thought its the hook did the job. Myles was just the perfect example of a good fisherman. A real leader of Christ, now all demons back off, and examine your life, wr will not contend over this Man’s body
Amen! Amen! Amen! Amen! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT JESUS CHRIST!
Rebuke them!
Let the man RIP people Please!!
forgive them father for they know not what they have done this is a man of God and also a Bahamian that made way for others to follow in his legacy
Hes Resting Focus On Your Soul
He was indeed a sober and upright Man of God! What’s your problem?
How can the lost know they are lost without a point of reference to be lost by?
What use is a cure without first learning of the sickness?
What use is a King without seeing his kingdom?
Didn’t Jesus come first declaring the Kingdom, prior to his death?
Didn’t Jesus tell us to seek first the Kingdom and it’s righteousness (which Dr Munroe states as meaning right standing with the King of that Kingdom)?
Did he preach Christ died and resurrected and ascended (often forgot) for the salvation of the world, that they may enter into his Kingdom? (note the bible talks much of entering into the Kingdom – it talks much about the Kingdom of Heaven… in fact, it’s something being discussed a lot at the moment by many.
I think this debate by the Heresy hunters and the Gnostics and even the defenders has been framed wrong, perhaps first look at the whole bible – the Old testament is littered with the imagery of the Kingdom, then compare Dr Munroe’s teachings with the bible, not until you understand the complete teachings of the Scriptures can you hope to compare.
Historical Church Orthodoxy would not technically have called Myles Munroe a heretic, perhaps a little heterodox, but on the whole Orthodox.
His teaching was about ‘What is this Kingdom Christ Preached?’ – “Why must I seek it?” and finally “How do I seek it?”
Funny how all the Nay Sayers forget that they themselves are not perfect in their own personal revelation of God. Myles or anyone for that fact can give opinion to their revelation of Jesus Christ aside of what the basic foundation of the word of God is. The bottom line is Myles was a upright man of God. He was one of the many few I knew who lived a life he talked about. He stayed away from sin he was a virgin when he married his wife. He emphasized learning your purpose in Christ and YET, people love being complacent bored christians.
Luke 23:2 And they began to accuse him, saying, “We have found this man subverting our nation. He opposes payment of taxes to Caesar and claims to be Messiah, a king.”
They said the same things about Jesus. So why are we shocked. Your damned if you do and your damned if you don’t. I can only speak for my fruit and that is what Jesus said to look at others lives. Myles Munroe was speaking to Nations, KINGS, Presidents. What minister do you know is that amazingly effective? My life has made a huge 360 degree turn from listening to him for 20 years. I have my own business and do it all for the glory of God. I would of fallen away from a boring Wednesday and Sunday mundane routine of church if I did not truly find my calling. I would of robbed the world of my gift and also made the grave rich if it were not for this amazing Ministry. I pray the legacy lives on through his Ministry. God bless. Matthew 6:33
ONPOINT!!!!!!
Part of being a Christian is to gather information about a thing before making a decision, judgement, rebuke, or accusation. That’s what using wisdom is about.
Myles Munroe wrote, taught, and preached extensively about the Kingdom of God, and about Jesus. Everything about the kingdom he preached and talked about was about its KING, JESUS.
Apostle Paul taught the same message that Christ and the other apostles did, see (Acts 28:30-31; 20:25, and 28:23). A mistake some people make is to elevate the words of Paul above the words of Jesus. Pauls writings are epistles, letters written to address issues in churches where he has already preached the Kingdom message, while planting the congregations.
To try and use Paul’s teachings as an argument against what Myles Munroe taught, is ridiculous. Myles Munroe focused on the gospel message that Jesus taught in the gospels, along with the overall understanding that the whole bible is a story about a King, and his Family.
Pauls writings are scripture, and inspired (God breathed). Therefore they are on the same level as Jesus words.
If Myles really did say (as he is reported to have said) that the bible doesn’t say Jesus really died, or that our job is not to preach about Him dying for our sins, but to “solve people’s problems” , then he WAS a false teacher and it needs to be pointed out. We are not to lovingly accept false teachers but to reject them after they have been admonished 2-3 times without them repenting of their false teaching. Since Monroe no longer can repent, his false teachings still need to be pointed out for what they are. A little leaven leavens the who,e lump, and we have a LOT of leaven in the churches that needs to be dealt with. If you can’t see that then I urge you to take Peter’s advice to heart (2Peyer) immerse yourself in the study of the scriptures, and “add to your faith, knowledge”
Amen! After this author said “while I am not familiar with much of his teachings or ministry” I couldn’t view this article credibly. It’s silly to argue against something that you haven’t researched, especially when Myles Munroe’s false teachings are easily accessible on YouTube.
The Bible says we over coke by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimony. Do we really draw The lost in by showing them a better life in Christ?
ONPOINT!!!!!!
It would look like he was right at the preaching, But he didn’t tell the truth – fully. That makes it a false doctrine. When he takes something away (Jesus) He should have mentioned what else will be filling the gap, Here Myles is taking Jesus away from the Kingdom.
In a Kingdom – if I I like to get a citizenship, King is supreme. The Kingdom is the King. The kingdom is not a shoe shop or democratic! Myles confuses an elected government with Kingdom, where King is everything.
Gospel is not in the power of who is telling, But Gospel itself has the power that if in the name if Jesus. If I say in Myles’s terms – Avoiding Jesus is like, selling a shoe without telling about how the shoe is better?
Where is the greatness of the Gospel of the Kingdom without the qualities of the King?
We can see how the listeners are relieved with a happy sigh! They are now happily be announcing the Kingdom of … oh wait, Kingdom of whom?
In short – The intention of the Myless message is mainly to create a wave of shock and attract people. OR – His intention was to help people to tell the Gospel without any problems. Unfortunately, Jesus sent the disciples to the wolves, so we have NO WAY to take the pain out!
A partially correct preaching is only fully wrong! In that way, he sounds much like a heresy rather than doctrinal.
Unfortunately I assume you have never read any of Dr Munroes books. He makes it Abundantly clear that the King is Supreme, seek the Kingdom and with that his Righteousness. There is no separation, and hes trying to explain a concept of Kingdom that is foreign to the Western World. When you truly understand the depth of Kingdom, you will truly understand the majesty and awesomeness of our King Jesus Christ. Just my 2 cents as I have read a lot of his works. I suggest reading a book called the Divided Gospel by Dr Mattera.
God Bless you my friend.
Myles was an intellectual and the average IQ christian may not really appreciate his message.. For me His message changed me never to be the same again.. I say his understanding of God is way above any other modern preacher
Simply put for both sides of the argument, do not seperate The King from the Kingdom. I don’t know if that was Dr Monroe’s intention. I do believe that he was a man who loved the Lord. I do believe that as a man, he is faulty as we all are. I don’t think we will find a preacher or teacher who has a full and complete understanding of the entire word of God without mistakes. For the last few years, I’ve been more careful with whom I listen to because as a new born again Christian in 2005 I was led astray. Out of excitement and a need for what I thoughty would be self improvement, I listened to too many teachings of men and stopped reading The Word, seeking and trusting in God’s revelation to me. The lesson I learned was to spend more time in the Word and in personal relationship with God. I prayed for discernment and wisdom. I know God has sent preachers and teachers, thankfully! I got too hung up on bettering myself and less concerned with God’s Will. I was more focused on me and less focused on Jesus. I do believe that if we seek the kingdom first AND HIS rightousness, all other things will be added. This can not exclude the King. I believe He is speaking of sanctification (all other things will be added) The things being added are the things that are changed in us making us more like Him. We are to go out to spread His message. The Lord spoke to my heart recently, “stop looking for all the differences in each other, as believers, and see what you have in common, a love for Me. Keep your eyes on Me!”
In these, last days, we so badly need to come together in one accord. Praying for each other to grow in wisdom and discernment instead of tearing each other down. I think we are unlikely to draw anyone to Him with this behavior.
Should all the lost people not understand they are lost and in need of a savior before we offer them a better life?
One other thought what if your life is going great? What if all is well and your not in need of Jesus making your life better?
Judgement belongs to God, warnings from God is given to us.
When a teacher davieates from the truth, it is heresy and can happen when a person is puffed up. Doctrines of devils can come from misinterpretations of the Bible in the most subtle of ways. Myles did seek to Tell us that the Door is the door – No, the Door is a person and not a means to an end. Heaven (Kingdom) and Earth may pass away but My words will not. How many times have you ever sang a worship song praising the Kingdom? He said, in my Father’s House are many mansions. It is a House, not a person. For it is said, of the increase of His Government there shall be no end. Not the government of the Kingdom, but the government of a Person – Jesus. When you try to toy with the tenets of our redemption, you are looking for serious trouble. To you readers, discern when heretical teachings are brought to you on a plate of gold. Careful what you allow to settle in your heart, for out of it are the issues of life.
We are only foolish if we point at somebody and say something about anybody indicating that we cannot see our own problems first and saying any problems about somebody..if you judge you will be judged too…let God be the only judge.
I believe too that it is foolishness to denounce the precious child of God Myles Munroe. We know those us who are blessed with his teachings. Over 30 years on one taught me the Kingdom of God. It is his videos that saved me from staying ignorant about the major plan of God for man to knowing the Kingdom of God.
God bless Myles Munroe and his wife who are in heaven and his children and his ministries.
Jesus said Judge NOT!
To understand the teachings of Late Dr Myles Munroe, you need to remove your Lenses of Religion! It’s only Religious persons who use the word “Heretic!” Even Jesus was called a Heretic and that mentality comes from a “Holier than thou attitude” Pharisee attitude which is not of God! This is what makes Christianity of today a deadly and boring religion! Many have been killed in the name of Christianity! Jesus corrected this error in his disciples who found someone who was not of their group and tried to stop them. And Jesus asked them why they wanted to stop him. In other words, Jesus was happy that someone was preaching the Good News of the Kingdom! (Mark 9:38). Jesus Preached the Kingdom of God and its righteousness! He did not preach Christianity!
To make a fair and righteous judgement of the Ministry of Myles Munroe, you must demonstrate that you have read all his books, seen all his videos and not just a clip. Once you do that, you will realize you have been fighting God’s servant, condemning a righteous man who did his best to preach the Kingdom of Heaven.
Dr Myles Munroe was a genius, a Phylosopher, full of the Spirit of God, a husband of one wife who preached righteousness, who did not seek his own glory but making the glory of God known to man, a man who touched many souls with the word of God and helping Millions to discover and live their God-given potential! He preached Christ, The Kingdom and its righteousness!
Please apologize and repent to God so that your eyes may be opened and see why many Churches today are lost! Have you heard of Babylon the Great, the mother of many harlots? (Revelation 17). That’s another topic for another day but in a nutshell, it makes you understand how deceitful the devil is and how Satan has made so called Christians comfortable in sin! Satan has legally diverted worship from God to himself through his own version of righteousness (Daniel 7:25). There is a call in Revelation 18 saying “Come out of her!”
This message is only revealed to those that are humble to be taught! This is why Jesus rejoiced! He said Thank you Father that you have not revealed these things to the proud teachers of the Law who think they know everything, but you have revealed it to babies (Matthew 11:25)! Which cup is easy to fill? A full one or an empty one? Blessed are the poor in Spirit! The Good thing is the Servant of God is asleep awaiting the resurrection of the righteous!
If you call yourself a Christian, humble yourself before God and don’t be Judgemental! Be open minded and learn more from the word of God!
Judge Not! Grow in Truth and Grace!
Let each one of us work our own Salvation we unto God, we’ll all be made answerable for every idle word we have spoken or written. If we have accused anyone falsely, we’ll be guilty before God of breaking His commandment: Thou Shall Not Bear False Witness Against Your Neighbour! (Matthew 19:18). If you call yourself a Christian, Stop this malicious smear campaign against the Late Dr Myles Munroe because you are already guilty of bearing False Witness against the great servant of God! God have mercy on your poor souls!
I don’t know what Bible you are reading but Jesus NEVER told his followers not to judge false teaching/teachers. He simply said not to judge HYPOCRITICALLY. We as Christians are to judge false or incorrect teaching and even remind others not to listen or adhere to that message. The book of Jude is completely about false teachers and he even had a few names to call them names:
Jude 1:12 – These are hidden reefs at your love feasts, as they feast with you without fear, shepherds feeding themselves; waterless clouds, swept along by winds; fruitless trees in late autumn, twice dead, uprooted; 13wild waves of the sea, casting up the foam of their own shame; wandering stars, for whom the gloom of utter darkness has been reserved forever.
Myles Munroe taught that prayer is giving God permission to operate in Earth’s affairs. So unless we as men give God permission to operate in the world HE CREATED then his hands are tied and he’s at a loss. This was HERESY! But I can guarantee you that Myles Munroe and no one else gave God permission to crash that plane into that crane causing everyone on board to perish. God is SOVEREIGN and He is alive and reigning over all creation. Myles Munroe died because it was God’s judgement on his false teaching along with Eddie Long and other corrupt word of faith teachers that have abruptly perished suddenly and violently . They are all an embarrassment in the body and Christ and I for one am glad no one else can hear this despicable non sense ever again.
“Myles Munroe died because it was God’s judgement on his false teaching along with Eddie Long and other corrupt word of faith teachers that have abruptly perished suddenly and violently . They are all an embarrassment in the body and Christ and I for one am glad no one else can hear this despicable non sense ever again.
Your words are harsh but we are along the same lines of thinking. My only hope is these me repented before they died.
All these comments help me to more understanding the Kingdom of Heaven and how God uses people to accomplished His Will on earth.
Blessings
If the good news is not the fact Jesus died to secure justification for all sinners, relieving us of the works of religion which only kept us still condemned; if the good news is not the fact that the Lord rose from the dead, destroying Satan who hitherto had the power of death and subsequently freeing us from the fear of death; if the good news is not about the possibility of being born again or created anew to become God’s own children, thus delivering us from a sinful nature we are born with; if the good news is not about God’s special gift for the believer, the Holy Spirit THEN WHAT IS THE GOOD NEWS?
In one of his clips Dr Monroe taught that the good news is about teaching people to get by in life i.e. Paying their bills, prospering materially etc.
If that is the goodnews then what is its relevance to the great oligarchs and oil rich sheiks in Arabia???? Yet we are supposed to proclaim it to every creature.
No doubt he was a great and wonderful man of God but he clearly strayed into error.
Did you read the article?
When you defend a false teacher with all your strength, certainly you also fall in the same category; you are a false teacher too, that is why you are determined to defend your own. In fact, those who defend false teachers do it intentionally; we can easily see this within their lines of thought when they write their responses. Their intention is to mislead and to perpetuate false doctrines. Remember what Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior taught in Matthew 7:15, “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.” So, it is our business to identify false teachers so that we are not mislead by their teachings. As followers of Christ, our focus must be entirely on the Lord Jesus Christ and not in any other gospel whose intent is to replace the Lord with motivational speaking. We must be very careful on what gospel we consume. it doesn’t matter whether we are labeled ‘heresy hunters’. Let the agents of false doctrines label us whatever names they want; our work is to identify these false doctrines, expose them, and pray for all those false teachers so that they can receive the light of the Gospel of Christ, so that they may not end up perishing. Let us continue praying for all false teachers and their agents so that they can stop perpetuating false doctrines whose intention is to channel people to eternal condemnation. In fact, if you are a friend and follower of Christ, He lives in you and there is no way you can fail to identify a false doctrine. No way. because Jesus Christ lives in you and we also have the Holy Spirit who teaches us all things. So it is very easy to know that Monroe was a false teacher, as easy as 1+1. For instance, let us look at what he said
“Jesus preached the gospel of the Kingdom. He did not preach himself,”
“The good news is not Calvary. The good news is not about even the resurrection…The Gospel of the Kingdom is the only true Gospel.”
“Do you know why the people on your job really hate Christians right now? Because you are preaching to them Jesus Christ. You don’t [need to] be talking about blood and nails and the spear in His side, because that’s not what you’re supposed to be talking about. You’ve got to be talking about how to solve people’s problems,”
That we’ve got to be talking about how to solve people’s problems!!!!!!!!!! what kind of teaching is this. This is a purely prosperity and materiality gospel. it is a doctrine that is against the Word of God. Jesus Christ taught us in Matthew 6:25 “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes?”
Yet Monroe teaches, “You’ve got to be talking about how to solve people’s problems”. Of which he implies, how to earn a living, make wealth, etcc..how to build a legacy because he believes that ideas never die, even crooked ideas. This is not the Gospel that Christ or the Apostles taught. so let us be aware of false teachings and false teachers and false prophets, and let us not shy from being called names, of whatever kind. Let us endure and persevere in any name calling. Those who endure to the end shall receive eternal life. Remember the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. Lazarus endured poverty but today he is in paradise, sitting at the bosom of Abraham the Father of faith and enjoying for t he rest of his life. The rich man who left a massive legacy was in hades being tormented, crying and gnashing teeth because he concerned himself with the things of these world, things that Monroe is asking people to concentrate on. Brethren let us put all our eyes in Jesus Christ and seek Him day and night. We are in this world but we are not of this world. Those who want to hold onto this world would lose it, those who lose in this world would gain everlasting life. Be careful on the gospel you consume, whether backed with philosophies, flowery language, or the so called world knowledge, which is temporary. Permanent knowledge resides in the knowing the Word of God, and Jesus is the Word of God. all these other kinds of worldly knowledge is cosmetic. I am sorry if I used strong words. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
I am surprised no one even mentioned the real problem with Myles Monroes teaching here. Jesus did indeed preach the Kingdom of God. But what is the Kingdom of God?
Jesus also answered this clearly…
John 18:36
21st Century King James Version
36 Jesus answered, “My Kingdom is not of this world. If My Kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews. But now is My Kingdom not from hence.”
Then Paul followed it up with…
Romans 14:16-18
21st Century King James Version
16 Let not your good be spoken of as evil;
17 for the Kingdom of God is not meat and drink, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost.
18 For he that in these things serveth Christ, is acceptable to God and approved by men.
The big problem with Myles teaching, if you watched it, is what he defined as the Kingdom. The point of his message wasn’t just that we need to preach the Kingdom but what the Kingdom is. He went on to explain what the Kingdom is and from his series of messages on this, he was talking about making it great in this life. He was talking about earthly greatness. So he was simply preaching the same prosperity gospel fron another angle.
But the Kingdom of God is about our redemption in Christ and the life of holiness and walk with God we go on to live from then on. Our earthly financial status, fame, greatness is not the message of the gospel or of the Kingdom of God. But that is what these preachers have been preaching and continue to preach. The gospel of the Kingdom is not the pursuit of human greatness. It if of faith in God and the walk of holiness and love; especially love for the body of Christ.
His statement wasnt just wrong, the concept he went on to preaach with it was also wrong. I used to listen to him a lot but stopped when I realsied he was preaching a secular reasoning message. He preached the new thought ideology, just like most other word of faith preachers
I also want to note that your idea that true believers should embrace everyone to show love and unity in the body of Christ is not biblical. It is just emotions and somewhat like an appeal to sentiments. Jesus Himself, told us not to tolerate false doctrines and those that preach it. The only argument you can make is the kind fo false doctrine being preached. There are doctrines that aren’t fundamental to salvation and there are those that are. For example, arguing about the kind of bread for communion is not a doctrine I can call someone a false preacher for. But preaching, once saved, forever saved, for example, is totally something I wouldn’t tolerate any preacher for. So is teaching the false prosperity, name it and claim it, message
I have question about myles munroe view on us going in heaven and resurrection.
Can any one explain this?
“So he was simply preaching the same prosperity gospel fron another angle.”
Spot on. The Prosperity Gospel has plagued the Body of Christ for years.
I don’t understand why there is such arguing in the body of Christ. If you don’t agree with Myles Munroe teaching, then don’t listen to it. If you do, then embrace it and be changed by it. It is self centered and the character of Satan to argue with other believers. We are called to love and pray for one another period.
I think Dr. Munroe’s point was that the kingdom is actually very easy to understand and also very highly desired, and that everyone is trying to find it but some don’t know the way. Jesus is the way to the Kingdom. I’ve heard Dr. Munroe repeatedly say that.
Jesus constantly talked about the kingdom, and he did himself say in Luke 4 that he came to preach the kingdom. He said that He came so that men (mankind) might have life and have it more abundantly. He also said that He had to go away so that He could prepare a place for us, and that He would come again and receive us. Even his closest confidants (the disciples) couldn’t understand; one of them (Thomas) even told Jesus in John 14 explicitly that he didn’t understand where Jesus was going and asked how would they know the way since He would be gone. Jesus’s answer: I am the way, the truth, and the life. We do need to ask the way to what? The truth of what? What life? The messages I’ve heard from Dr. Munroe help answer these questions: the way to truth, the truth of God and our place in Him, the life He purposes for us now and for evermore.
What this article and comment thread has exposed — that believers are a mess of confusion, questions, and in-fighting — is not much different than what happened when Jesus was walking the earth and in the gospel-spreading years since; it hasn’t really changed. The followers were confused then. So many of us are confused now.
Jesus was indisputably the Word of God, and that Word is illuminating and love personified. Still, some people – even believers – aren’t enlightened and are not handling each other in love.
If you’ve ever known a preacher, you will know that preachers are human. They learn, make mistakes, make verbal faux pas, and have to keep going. They have so much weight to carry. I know because I have a parent who is a preacher. Watching the time and labor and love that goes into studying the scriptures and preparing to come before a very often critical audience week after week has made me very compassionate and admiring of the work and discipline that entails.
Dr. Munroe wasn’t perfect. His messages weren’t perfect. I’ve seen some of his messages in which he has actually apologized for preaching something that he later found was in error. That takes a lot of humility. If you view his messages in soundbites and attack his approach without considering both the wisdom there and the human fallibility, you might miss the heart of what he was saying. He did shared tremendous revelation on the kingdom, and I thank him for that. For me, his messages helped open up a better understanding of Jesus, and I got free from a lot of burdens through his ministry.
Ultimately, Dr. Myles Munroe unabashedly pointed all glory to God and gave utmost reverence to Jesus Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit. Whether you believe that we should talk about Jesus first and the kingdom second — or vice versa — does not diminish God. If you believe that we have absolutely no power (dominion) and any such statement is heresy or evidence of false teaching, that still does not impact salvation. The only difference it makes is in how much victory you can experience while you’re here on earth. Dr. Munroe brought me closer to Christ and helped me realize the victory I can walk in now. I count his ministry a blessing!